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#22141 Feb 6, 2008

If someone else suggested this, please forgive me for repeating.

I find if you use the #8 foot, the blue jean foot, and click one to the

right, this makes a great seam.

Let me know what y'all think!

Kathy B. N. GA



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#22142 Feb 6, 2008

Hi Kathy, is that on a 5mm or a 9mm machine?

CJ



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Subject: [430_440_630_640_730] 1/4 seam



If someone else suggested this, please forgive me for repeating.

I find if you use the #8 foot, the blue jean foot, and click one to the

right, this makes a great seam.

Let me know what y'all think!

Kathy B. N. GA



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#22158 Feb 7, 2008

This is on the 9 mm machine.

Kathy B. > Hi Kathy, is that on a 5mm or a 9mm machine?

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> If someone else suggested this, please forgive me for repeating.

> I find if you use the #8 foot, the blue jean foot, and click one to the > right, this makes a great seam.

> Let me know what y'all think!

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#22160 Feb 7, 2008

Interesting. I'll have to check that out, thanks for the tip!

CJ



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Subject: [430_440_630_640_730] Re: 1/4 seam

>This is on the 9 mm machine.

Kathy B



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#105099 Oct 22, 2013

Bonnie Hunter has a good explanation of how to figure out where a quarter inch is on YOUR machine here ---Links-Are-Forbidden--- this post, she talks about using moleskin to mark the line, but since then has come up with other methods including the gizmo that Bernina et al make that screws into the bed of the machine. Here is one of her do-it-yourself methods for a removable seam guide ---Links-Are-Forbidden--- luck!Margaret







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#105134 Oct 24, 2013

The scant quarter is critical when working on projects with others. Any quilt pieced by 35 quilters and that has 50 seams across the length or width will be noticeable if the width is not consistent. Also triangle points can get lost or hang free if the seam is not exact enough.

That said, I can now notice my seam is off even on nine patches. I've gotten so that I test my quarter inch whenever I start a piecing session. Thank goodness for leaders and enders.

What I would like is a way to give everyone confidence in their scant quarter. Many people don't like to piece for group projects because they feel that someone who is more precise will get very frustrated by the imperfect seams.

KarenO

Karen,I am one who has struggled with the 1/4" seam. I would love some suggestions of patterns where that is not as important. Thanks,

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Virginia"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive." ~Gilda Radner



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#105135 Oct 24, 2013

A different Karen here - think about a nine patch. If you cut 1 1/2 inch strips, but sewed with a 1/8 inch seam, your block would be larger, and so would your quilt. If you cut your borders before you started piecing, they will be too short. However, if you cut as you go, a different block size wouldn't matter much.Also paper-piecing patterns can tolerate vastly different seam allowances. Some of the fiddly bits even need a trimmed seam to lie flat.

KarenO

Karen,I am one who has struggled with the 1/4" seam. I would love some suggestions of patterns where that is not as important. Thanks,

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Virginia"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive." ~Gilda Radner



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#105138 Oct 24, 2013

Boy if you really want to drive yourself nuts do what I did ...use two or three different machines on the same quilt...one when I went to the sewing group, another at home. NOT doing that again. I have so much trouble with the fabric 'kicking' out one way or the other. Really like the dual feed on the 750 and also have always been a slow sewer. Others could make two quilts to my one. I think the 1/4 inch seams are important as that is what the patterns are based on, but if you do all the same you would just get smaller blocks- or bigger. Of course if you cut templates instead of strip quilting, you better be using what the template was designed for??? I dunno. I just got a quilt back from a long arm gal and she has the entire pattern quilted crooked so I have bigger fish to fry....too chicken to try FMQ myself but this may push me over the edge... Marlys who is going to work cuz it is less stressful than quilting today.

A different Karen here - think about a nine patch. If you cut 1 1/2 inch strips, but sewed with a 1/8 inch seam, your block would be larger, and so would your quilt. If you cut your borders before you started piecing, they will be too short. However, if you cut as you go, a different block size wouldn't matter much.Also paper-piecing patterns can tolerate vastly different seam allowances. Some of the fiddly bits even need a trimmed seam to lie flat.

KarenO

Karen,I am one who has struggled with the 1/4" seam. I would love some suggestions of patterns where that is not as important. Thanks,

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Virginia"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive." ~Gilda Radner







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#105141 Oct 24, 2013

A different Karen here - think about a nine patch. If you cut 1 1/2 inch strips, but sewed with a 1/8 inch seam, your block would be larger, and so would your quilt. If you cut your borders before you started piecing, they will be too short. However, if you cut as you go, a different block size wouldn't matter much.Also paper-piecing patterns can tolerate vastly different seam allowances. Some of the fiddly bits even need a trimmed seam to lie flat. KarenO



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#105148 Oct 24, 2013

Yes there are times when a scant quarter is essential... For example, as Karen O said, sewing in a group. .I said what is important is consistency.. The group must sew seams that are all consistent, whether it is a scant quarter or not.. I helped with many projects were people were asked to give a block or scrap book page of a certain size. ..One might think it would be easy.. But apparently lots of people can.t measure and cut a 6 inch square, even when it is one piece of fabric with stenciling on it. Karen in PA From: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com [mailto:430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of karenotto@...Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:32 AMTo: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.comSubject: [430_440_630_640_730] RE: 1/4' seam



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#105149 Oct 24, 2013

This is the key.. Patterns where you can cut as you go, are easier to manage for many reasons.. Karen in PA From: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com [mailto:430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of karenotto@...Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:35 AMTo: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.comSubject: [430_440_630_640_730] RE: 1/4' seam



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#105152 Oct 24, 2013

Ultimately, it's not so much a question of whether you have an exact quarter inch seam or scant quarter inch seam.The only thing that matters is whether your finished units are exactly the size they aresupposed to be, and that's going to depend on a number of factors -- your seam allowance, but also how accurately you are cutting, the way you press or don't press your seams open, howheavy your thread is, how large your needle is, and the bulk of your fabric. Aslong as you are CONSISTENT withyour cutting and your seam allowance, you should be fine on any pattern where the quilt is made from all of the same blocks, because if your units finish slightly too big or too small they will still be exactly thesame size and will still fit together.However,if youare offby a little you will have a nightmare of a time when you try to combine different blocks in a sampler type of quilt. Say you are off by 1/32 of an inch on each seam. If your block is a 9-patch, then you end up with a block that is 1/16" too big or toosmall because of those two seams in each direction. But if you are doing a very complex block with 50 pieces, being off by 1/32" on each seam adds up to a block that is quite a bit too large or too small when it's finished, and if all of your blocks have different numbers of pieces and different numbers of seams, that's when you'd be driving yourself crazy with all different size blocks that you're trying to fit together.

For that reason, it's always a good idea to sew together a test unit of a couple strips before you start piecing, press them open, and measure to see that your unit finished the correct size (that is, if you seam 3 2" wide cut strips together, your finished unit should measure exactly 5" wide and your center strip should measure exactly 1 1/2" wide from seam to seam). If your test piece doesn't measure up, then first check your cutting accuracy, and then if you're sure you're cutting your fabric right on the money, adjust your seam allowance just a hair wider or narrower so that your units finish exactly the size they should. That's why I dislike foot 57 or any foot with a fixed, attached guide for patchwork, because you can't move the guide if you're not getting good results with it -- and I want my needle in the dead center position with a straight stitch plate when I'm piecing. I'd much rather move a sliver of pink tape or an adjustable guide than move my needle to the right or to the left. If I did a move-the-needle piecing solution just so I could use a guide foot, I guarantee that sometimes I'd forget to move the needle when I sat down and end up with half of my blocks pieced one way and half pieced the other. :-) Tape stays where I put it even when the machine is turned off for the day!

Rebecca Gracewww.CheekyCognoscenti.blogspot.com

Karen,I am one who has struggled with the 1/4" seam. I would love some suggestions of patterns where that is not as important. Thanks,

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Virginia"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive." ~Gilda Radner







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#105155 Oct 24, 2013

The scant I think is to take into consideration the pressing of the seam one way. Does it really matter as long as you use the same size seam for the whole project? Doreenmeka1@...



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#105159 Oct 24, 2013

Theonly problem with that is, everyone.s version of .scant., just like a full1/4., will be different. I have yet to do a group project or blockexchange where all blocks came out equally. It depends on the sewers eye,the machine and foot they are using, the thread, their ability, and on andon. Even when I have done blocks with quilters who are far better generalsewers than I am, nothing has ever been exact, one block to another. Ihave tried using our 1/4 in. feet, also tried with regular feet and movingneedle various clicks, and they all come out just a hair different. Frommy perspective, the scant 1/4 in will always remain elusive. I still thinkhaving your blocks come out the same size and straight, with seams matching andpoints showing, is most important. Just me.Lynne



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#105160 Oct 24, 2013

This is my point, it often does not matter. The purpose of the scant is to account for the folding of the fabric and the thickness of the thread. Over the width of a quilt it can add up. However, may patterns have places where you can adjust. One example that was mentioned is to wait to cut your borders and then measure the quilt top to decide how long they should be. But I have to say there are places it is very hard to adjust. Karen in PA From: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com [mailto:430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DoreenSent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:53 AMTo: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [430_440_630_640_730] RE: 1/4' seam



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#105161 Oct 24, 2013

This is certainly what I look at.. Karen in PA I still think having your blocks come out the same size and straight, with seams matching and points showing, is most important. Just me.

Lynne






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