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#24372 Mar 24, 2008

What is a 200/730? And what are the various lines for Bernina? My

daughter was looking at the "Bernettes" but I think she should look

at the Activas--is there another line besides Bernette, Activa, and

Artista? What is a 200 anyway? Thanks



Shirley Lea

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#24377 Mar 31, 2008

A 200/730 is the Artista 200 that has been upgraded to all of the features

of the 730 including the BSR. Carolyn



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#24381 Mar 31, 2008

Hi Shirley Lea,

From bottom to top of the line, Bernette, Activa, Aurora, and Artista. The

200 is the former top of the line machine (currently 730 is at the top) but

the 200 can be upgraded to be identical, hence it's being dubbed a 200/730.

CJ



Subject: [430_440_630_640_730] 200/730



What is a 200/730? And what are the various lines for Bernina? My

daughter was looking at the "Bernettes" but I think she should look

at the Activas--is there another line besides Bernette, Activa, and

Artista? What is a 200 anyway? Thanks

Shirley Lea

shlea@... mailto:shlea@bellsouth.net



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#24390 Mar 31, 2008

Shirley, if your daughter is trying to decide between the Activa or

Bernette, definitely get the Activa!!! It's a much better machine.



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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:30 PM

To: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [430_440_630_640_730] 200/730



What is a 200/730? And what are the various lines for Bernina? My

daughter was looking at the "Bernettes" but I think she should look

at the Activas--is there another line besides Bernette, Activa, and

Artista? What is a 200 anyway? Thanks

Shirley Lea







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#24395 Mar 31, 2008

Shirley, I own an Artista 180 and a 730, and I also have an Activa as my travel/retreat

machine. It is a sturdy little work horse of a machine. I have recently used (and bought) a

Bernette. It was for my (adult) son so he could do some general mending or hemming of

light weight curtains, etc. It was OK for the intended purpose, but nothing like my Activa

when it comes to stitch quality, ease of use, etc. Your daughter should sew on both

machines before she decides. There is a definite difference. Cheryl --- In



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#24402 Mar 31, 2008

I agree. However, if she is looking at the 240 machine, check the

price on a stripped 430. That will give her the opportunity to

expand to embroidery or add a BSR in a future date, should her

interests run that direction. I really like the features of the

430. I understand that sometimes the 430 is very near the price of

the 240 machine. (Isn't that how we end up with the higher priced

car?)



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#24434 Mar 31, 2008

In order of "hierarchy"

Bernette 56, 66, 80, 90

Activa 210, 220, 230,240

Aurora 430, 440, 450

Artista 630, 640, 730

Questions to ask:

How much sewing does she do?

What kind of sewing does she want to do?

Is there any feature she'd like to have on her new machine?

How much does she want to spend on a machine?

Without knowing those answers, or having an interactive conversation its hard to tell what machine is right for her.

If she's just beginning and isn't sure at all if she wants to sew at all the Bernette 56 is a good choice. Alternatively, if her local dealer has a classroom perhaps she can take a class and sew on a machine to see if she likes sewing and the machine.

I much prefer the Activas over the Bernettes. The 210 is a nice price for a beginner, however, if she thinks she might get into quilting she'll want to get a model that can upgrade to adding features that she might want later like the knee lift or better light. Disposable income also comes into play. If it were possible if she was interested in quilting I would go for the 230 but it is a big jump in price from the 210. That said, I think the ultimate beginner machine is the 430 because it can be expanded to do almost everything any sewer would want (except the 9mm stitches).

There are a couple of machines that I generally overlook - the 80 & the 90 Bernettes because I think dollar wise if you are at that point the Activa 210 is a logical choice. Same with the Activa 240 - you might as well jump up to the 430. The rest of the machine upward are all a delight it just depends on what kind of sewing or embroidery you want to do.

gin







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#24444 Mar 31, 2008

I totally agree. The Activa is very sweet and should work well for a long time. Cheryl's suggestion for test driving is a great idea.

Nina



In a message dated 03/31/08 06:29:12 Mountain Daylight Time, snaptoit@... writes:

Shirley, I own an Artista 180 and a 730, and I also have an Activa as my travel/retreat

machine. It is a sturdy little work horse of a machine. I have recently used (and bought) a

Bernette. It was for my (adult) son so he could do some general mending or hemming of

light weight curtains, etc. It was OK for the intended purpose, but nothing like my Activa

when it comes to stitch quality, ease of use, etc. Your daughter should sew on both

machines before she decides. There is a definite difference. Cheryl --- In



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#60347 Apr 26, 2010

I need advice...I have been looking at buying a 730. I am currently sewing on a 640, which I love. When I bought it, not only did the price difference help me make my decision, but I was also ignorant about some of the 730's capabilities. It has turned out that the work I am doing would be greatly aided by the directional sewing feature that the 200 & 730 have. I have an opportunity to buy a 200 for about 2,000, not upgraded, no embroidery module. To buy the 730 (still with no embroidery module, would be a couple thousand more. My questions are; if I bought the 200 & upgraded it, would it have all the features of the 730, or does the 730 still have some more abilities, features, stitches that even the upgrade doesn't add? Also, I seem to recall the upgrade costing around $800.00. Is this in the ballpark? I can't find an online price quote for that.

I already have the walking foot & the BSR for my 640, so if I did upgrade, the 200/730 could use the BSR, I understand, but not if I didn't upgrade. Is there any advantage or disadvantage, aside from price to either buying the 730 outright (for quite a bit more money, even if I do upgrade), or buying the new 200 & upgrading?

These prices are not trade ins, so I could still keep the 640, & not have to upgrade just for the BSR if I didn't want to. But it is the directional stitching, & sideways motion that I didn't know I'd really want that has me shopping. I almost bought a used 1630 for this purpose, but have been talked out of it by 2 dealers, because they didn't think it would last for the investment I would make.

If I had been doing the work I'm doing now when I bought my 640, I would have gone for the 730 at that time.

opinions? thanks, Connie







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#60349 Apr 26, 2010

Greetings, I have a 730E and just love it! I would buy one again and again! I am looking for a 640! If the price were right. I would not need the walking foot or the embroidery mod or the BSR. Wonder if we could do business with each other?

If so send me hours on the machine and what would come with it. I am in Texas.

This may be a silly idea but it may work out for both of us. shelly beth grappe



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#60350 Apr 26, 2010

Connie,

If you purchase the NOT upgraded 200, it will not be able to make use of the

BSR foot from your 640. If you upgrade it to a 730, it will come with a

memory upgrade, the BSR foot, the ability to use a Bernina stick, and the

730 designs. Prices vary, and I believe the top range is over $1,000-$1,200,

but every dealer is different. I would ask your dealer. I wonder if the

upgrade is still available - does anyone on the list know, since the 200 is

no longer being sold/supported. The 730 will still have a few items the

200/730 does not have, however you can purchase them. The 730 has a much

nicer vertical and horizontal thread spool. The 730 has a different thread

guide down closest to the needle - it is the one Bernina used on many older

machines, and for some reason put a new one on the 200, which has a tendency

to break threads. The 200/730 will have a wire clipped to the back of the

machine for the BSR. The 730 has the wire hidden internally. The 730 has a

gray stripe in front, and would have a slightly higher value, than a fully

upgraded 200/730.



I would go for what has the best warranty. You can find a 730 demo, with a

full warranty still.



Are you not interested in embroidery at all? I'm not sure this is the advice

you want. If I had money to burn, I would stick with the one you have, get

the embroidery module and the software, and the world would be open to you!

LOL

Jenni



From: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Constance Campbell

Subject: : [430_440_630_640_730] 200/730



I need advice...I have been looking at buying a 730. I am currently sewing

on a 640, which I love. When I bought it, not only did the price difference

help me make my decision, but I was also ignorant about some of the 730's

capabilities. It has turned out that the work I am doing would be greatly

aided by the directional sewing feature that the 200 & 730 have. I have an

opportunity to buy a 200 for about 2,000, not upgraded, no embroidery

module. To buy the 730 (still with no embroidery module, would be a couple

thousand more. My questions are; if I bought the 200 & upgraded it, would it

have all the features of the 730, or does the 730 still have some more

abilities, features, stitches that even the upgrade doesn't add? Also, I

seem to recall the upgrade costing around $800.00. Is this in the ballpark?

I can't find an online price quote for that.

I already have the walking foot & the BSR for my 640, so if I did upgrade,

the 200/730 could use the BSR, I understand, but not if I didn't upgrade. Is

there any advantage or disadvantage, aside from price to either buying the

730 outright (for quite a bit more money, even if I do upgrade), or buying

the new 200 & upgrading?

These prices are not trade ins, so I could still keep the 640, & not have to

upgrade just for the BSR if I didn't want to. But it is the directional

stitching, & sideways motion that I didn't know I'd really want that has me

shopping. I almost bought a used 1630 for this purpose, but have been talked

out of it by 2 dealers, because they didn't think it would last for the

investment I would make.

If I had been doing the work I'm doing now when I bought my 640, I would

have gone for the 730 at that time.

opinions? thanks, Connie







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#72656 Mar 31, 2011

I recently purchased a 200 that had been upgraded to a 730 from a very honest lady from out of town. I went to my dealer last night for some lessons since this is my first Bernina machine. She told me that this machine had not been upgraded to a 730 because the memory was still 32MB and there was no USB plug on the back of the machine. I do however have the BSR foot but the dealer told me I don't have all of what I need? I am thoroughly confused on what could be going on. Does anyone have any ideas? This upgrade supposedly happened in 2006 if that makes any difference. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!I contacted the seller and she said it had been upgraded and that I should have everything. I have the BSR foot that has a tiny 2" cord attached to it but I guess what may be missing is where that should plug into the back of the machine? I also do not have a USB nor do I see where a USB could plug in. I'm new to this Bernina thing had a pretty basic Janome before so please help:)

Colleen

Dallas, TX



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#72663 Mar 31, 2011

For an upgraded 200, the BSR would plug into the back of the machine

into an adapter. You'd also have a cable that would be attached across

the back of the machine that would be plugged into the same port the

embroidery module uses whenever you'd want to use it.

The 200s ALL had the necessary port for a USB stick as the original

models used a CD-Rom to load designs easily that used the same port. The

update changed the ability to also accept a USB stick. So, while perhaps

the update portion wasn't done, the port has always been there. Almost

any generic USB stick can be used, it doesn't have to be a Bernina

branded variety.

Kari~

It is better to be high-spirited even though one makes more mistakes,

than to be narrow-minded and all too prudent. - Vincent Van Gogh







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#72677 Mar 31, 2011

Colleen as you look at the machine from the backside is there a cord

attached (grayish in color that runs across the back and has an end on the

right side with a small box on the left side just above the needle area? -

this is how the BSR is wired on the 200. The small plug that is on the end

of the BSR plugs into that box from the bottom of the box. On the right end

that cord plugs into the embroidery port that is built in on the right end

of the machine - this is in the same black area as the plug for the

embroidery unit and also a card as well as the USB port. If you need some

photos please let me know and I will take some and send them to you off the

list.



Quilty Hugs

,Jean

jean@... or jeanmfo@...

Iphone 512-897-7881



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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:04 PM



I recently purchased a 200 that had been upgraded to a 730 from a very

honest lady from out of town. I went to my dealer last night for some

lessons since this is my first Bernina machine. She told me that this

machine had not been upgraded to a 730 because the memory was still 32MB and

there was no USB plug on the back of the machine. I do however have the BSR

foot but the dealer told me I don't have all of what I need? I am thoroughly

confused on what could be going on. Does anyone have any ideas? This upgrade

supposedly happened in 2006 if that makes any difference. Any thoughts would

be greatly appreciated!I contacted the seller and she said it had been

upgraded and that I should have everything. I have the BSR foot that has a

tiny 2" cord attached to it but I guess what may be missing is where that

should plug into the back of the machine? I also do not have a USB nor do I

see where a USB could plug in. I'm new to this Bernina thing had a pretty

basic Janome before so please help:)

Colleen

Dallas, TX

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#72689 Apr 1, 2011

One idea is that there were a lot of people who were confused about the BSR as they thought it to be just a foot when, in fact, it was something that the machine needed to wired to use.

Pam



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#72698 Apr 1, 2011

A picture would be GREAT if not too much to ask!

Thanks!!

Colleen Wooldridge

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#72813 Apr 6, 2011

My 200 was updated without the BSR. When I turn it on, there is a butterfly showing in the monitor.

The USB is on the right side of the machine, where the slot for the embroidery cards is and the cable for the connection with the computer.

For the BSR there would be a cable on the backside of the machine, above the needlebar.

Claudia from Germany





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I recently purchased a 200 that had been upgraded to a 730 from a very honest lady from out of town. I went to my dealer last night for some lessons since this is my first Bernina machine. She told me that this machine had not been upgraded to a 730 because the memory was still 32MB and there was no USB plug on the back of the machine. I do however have the BSR foot but the dealer told me I don't have all of what I need? I am thoroughly confused on what could be going on. Does anyone have any ideas? This upgrade supposedly happened in 2006 if that makes any difference. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!I contacted the seller and she said it had been upgraded and that I should have everything. I have the BSR foot that has a tiny 2" cord attached to it but I guess what may be missing is where that should plug into the back of the machine? I also do not have a USB nor do I see where a USB could plug in. I'm new to this Bernina thing had a pretty basic Janom e before so please help:)

Colleen

Dallas, TX







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#82461 Dec 31 2:34 AM

Hi! I think I'm getting a 200 that I'm going to upgrade to the 730-will it be the same as a 730 than-what would be the difference if any? It also includes a cd rom and 56k modem-do I need that-??

Do I still need a software program?

Think I'm going to be confused -

Excited but confused!

Judynsask



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#82472 Dec 31 6:23 AM

You say upgrade to the 730...so you can use the BSR? My 200 was upgraded years ago so I could use a usb stick but I decided I didn't need the BSR so I saved that $$$. The 200's had either a 32 mb or 64 mb board. Mine was newer and had the 64.

A cd rom came with the original 200 and you can still use it. And you can even use a external dvd drive, or hard drive with it if you wish. It can read all peripherals! From what I understood it is the same as the 730 minus the thread spool which is different. You can use Artlink 6 which is a free program so you can transfer designs to your sewing machine from the computer. That does not use a dongle. I really enjoy my software program but you wouldn't have to purchase that right now.

jnet


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