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#96770 Jan 26, 2013

I am new to this machine and to machine embroidery in general and I am wondering if I should machine embroider on a quilt that is already pieced and sandwiched. It is a 26 inch square wall hanging so I am thinking that I would not hoop it, but rather float it over the hoop and use an adhesive wash away stabilizer. Does this make sense or can someone suggest a better way to do it? I am worried that the machine embroidery will distort the size and squareness of my blocks, so any ideas or input will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Fran in BC



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#96771 Jan 26, 2013

It will completely depend on how thick and large your embroidery is but it

will change the shape a bit. To know exactly I would make up a quilt

sandwich just like what you want to embroider and try it on that first to

check for changes. I am sure more folks here are better at answering than

I tho.

Best,

Carol M



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#96772 Jan 26, 2013

Fran I do what you say all the time. You are right on the money



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#96778 Jan 26, 2013

Hi Doreen,

So, you float the quilt sandwich with the adhesive stabilizer.. then do you have to use any particular type of embroidery design, like one that is not too dense and do you have any problem with the design distorting your quilt shape? Thanks again



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#96779 Jan 26, 2013

Thanks Carol, good idea, that is what I do to audition my free motion quilting motifs so I guess that is how to audition embroidery designs too!



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#96780 Jan 26, 2013

I have quilted several quilts using the emb machine.I choose outline guilting designs and hoop all 3 layers ,I have a "sprung " hoop that I use for this and another rhoop for regular emb.Have had excellent results with the quilting.I do not stretch the 3 layers when I hoop them

From: fnewiest

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:53 PM

To: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [430_440_630_640_730] Re: 200/730 machine embroidery question



Hi Doreen,

So, you float the quilt sandwich with the adhesive stabilizer.. then do you have to use any particular type of embroidery design, like one that is not too dense and do you have any problem with the design distorting your quilt shape? Thanks again







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#96781 Jan 26, 2013

I am not familiar with a "sprung" hoop and my google search brought up a round hoop with a top ring that has clips on it, is that what you are using? Can you tell me what size or what brand it is? Great idea, thanks Fran



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#96784 Jan 26, 2013

Floating all the layers should work, also I'd slow down the machine and not use a dense design.. I always slow down when experimenting.. A test sandwich should give you lots of information.

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I think there are lots of "line quilting"designs out there, not only at OESD, but Embroidery Library.... two I know of for sure that have designs with low stitch counts.

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Personally for just stitching out designs before putting them on the actual project I want, I use white felt, then put the example in a plastic sleeve in a binder



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#96790 Jan 26, 2013

sorry, it is the hoop that came with my machine when it was new. I also purchased another large hoop after I had trouble with that one .It had stretched and no amount of wrapping would allow it to hold something thinner than 3 layers of a quilt.so I only use that hoop for quilting in the hoop .I also use no stabilizer when I do this and matching thread in the bobbin. I apologize for not making myself clear. I do like the results I get. I also use this method when I do extra thick towels ,using only a water soluble on the top of the towel and a basting stitch to hold it down. Hope this clarifies my previous post

From: fnewiest

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:30 PM

To: 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [430_440_630_640_730] Re: 200/730 machine embroidery question



I am not familiar with a "sprung" hoop and my google search brought up a round hoop with a top ring that has clips on it, is that what you are using? Can you tell me what size or what brand it is? Great idea, thanks Fran



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#96791 Jan 26, 2013

Thanks, now I understand, I was just trying to make it more complicated than it really is!







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#96792 Jan 26, 2013

Great idea! I have found a couple of free outline quilting motifs to download to try, so will give it a shot, thanks



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#96799 Jan 26, 2013

" I have quilted several quilts using the emb machine.I choose outline guilting designs and hoop all 3 layers ,I have a "sprung " hoop that I use for this."

What do you mean by a "sprung" hoop? Connie



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#96804 Jan 26, 2013

No never adhesive stabilize or you will have to pick it all off. Clear WSS

stabilizer is the best for quilting the quilt



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#96815 Jan 27, 2013

Good to know! WSS would be water soluble stabilizer... what if I used cut away stabilzer and cut out the middle after I basted the hoop outline, would that work? I downloaded the hoop outlines from Bernina today, but I am not sure if I should use Version 4 or 5, does that refer to the version of my machine software? Thanks for answering all these dumb questions, it is a stiff learning curve! Fran



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#96816 Jan 27, 2013

Yes, yes, you can use adhesive stabilizer. Cut a hole in the stabilizer a little larger than the design. Center the area to be stitched in the hoop (but don't hoop it), press onto the sticky stabilizer and place one straight pin on each side close to the hoop and out of the stitching area.

bonnie

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> No never adhesive stabilize or you will have to pick it all off. Clear WSS

> stabilizer is the best for quilting the quilt



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#96817 Jan 27, 2013

We must be talking about two different things. I was talking about stabilizers for hooping sandwiched quilt. That is the problem with subject lines not being explicit enough

Sent from my iPadDoreen



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#96821 Jan 27, 2013

Good to know! WSS would be water soluble stabilizer... what if I used cut away stabilzer and cut out the middle after I basted the hoop outline, would that work? I downloaded the hoop outlines from Bernina today, but I am not sure if I should use Version 4 or 5, does that refer to the version of my machine software? Thanks for answering all these dumb questions, it is a stiff learning curve! Fran







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#96833 Jan 27, 2013

Speaking from experience, this is true. Used adhesive, stippled, spent hours pulling little tiny bits of stabilizer off (heat or water help).

Accidentally made two little cuts in my quilt back that I had to sew up.

On the positive side, it was easy to decide where to put the label!

Karen - what was I thinking - O

> stabilizer is the best for quilting the quilt



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#96836 Jan 27, 2013

I quilt outline quilting designs through the 3 layers of a quilt sandwich without hooping the quilt, as described in my previous answer. I'll try to remember to upload a photo later today.

bonnie



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#96869 Jan 28, 2013

I have tried several different hooping and stabilizer combos for this kind of "quilting in the hoop," and my experience has been that, with simple outline quilting designs, it worked fine to just hoop my layered quilt without any additional stabilizer. I use a pretty thin 100% batting most of the time, so it hoops just as easily as a towel would. If you have a loftier batt and you're having trouble getting it in the hoop, then I'd probably hoop a piece of thin tearaway, layer the quilt on top and run the basting stitch to secure around the perimeter of the hoop.

Rebecca Grace

www.CheekyCognoscenti.blogspot.com



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#96890 Jan 28, 2013

Thanks Rebecca, I have been concerned about stretching the hoop out of shape, but is that really an issue, or is it just beginner jitters??

Fran in BC



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#96891 Jan 28, 2013

Thanks Rebecca, I have been concerned about stretching the hoop out of shape, but is that really an issue, or is it just beginner jitters??

Fran in BC



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#96896 Jan 28, 2013

It can be an issue because the quilt may be too thick depending on the

batting you are using



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#97361 Feb 6, 2013

I do use a very low-loft batting, though -- my quilt sandwich is not even as thick as a bath towel. If I was using multiple layers of batting, or something really thick, I would NOT hoop the quilt but would use one of the other methods mentioned below.

...my experience has been that, with simple outline quilting designs, it worked fine to just hoop my layered quilt without any additional stabilizer. I use a pretty thin 100% batting most of the time, so it hoops just as easily as a towel would. If you have a loftier batt and you're having trouble getting it in the hoop, then I'd probably hoop a piece of thin tearaway, layer the quilt on top and run the basting stitch to secure around the perimeter of the hoop






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