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#115015 Nov 21, 2015

So I got Dolly Diva back from the shop with a note that I should NOT use a 37D with my Artista 200, but with no explanation of why, other than "it's not made for an Artista - it's made for a 7 or 8 series". I have been using this foot for a few years now so this really surprised me. Can anyone tell me what adverse effect this would have had to use this 37D instead of the 37 or whatever foot is the 1/4" piecing foot? Does using this damage the machine? Cause issues with tension? Or is it just that it's not meant to be used with this version, but doesn't really hurt anything?



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#115016 Nov 21, 2015

So I just found is online about the "D" vs non-D feet. Is this correct? If so, it doesn't sound like it would hurt anything o use it on my Artista 200, but would like to know for sure. Th tch wasn't in when I picked up the machine, so all I had was her note. Here's what I found online: "the difference between D and Non-Dfeet, Dfeet simply have a space in the bottom of the foot removed so that the Dual Feed can be activated on the 7 and 8 series BERNINA machines."



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#115017 Nov 21, 2015

Linda,I cannot figure out a logic reason it would affect the machine, you have been using it, but what was the repair?, sorry I do not remember. The 200 does not have the sensing bail

So I got Dolly Diva back from the shop with a note that I should NOT use a 37D with my Artista 200, but with no explanation of why, other than "it's not made for an Artista - it's made for a 7 or 8 series". I have been using this foot for a few years now so this really surprised me. Can anyone tell me what adverse effect this would have had to use this 37D instead of the 37 or whatever foot is the 1/4" piecing foot? Does using this damage the machine? Cause issues with tension? Or is it just that it's not meant to be used with this version, but doesn't really hurt anything?



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#115018 Nov 21, 2015

excuse my note, hit the wrong key..Joann

So I got Dolly Diva back from the shop with a note that I should NOT use a 37D with my Artista 200, but with no explanation of why, other than "it's not made for an Artista - it's made for a 7 or 8 series". I have been using this foot for a few years now so this really surprised me. Can anyone tell me what adverse effect this would have had to use this 37D instead of the 37 or whatever foot is the 1/4" piecing foot? Does using this damage the machine? Cause issues with tension? Or is it just that it's not meant to be used with this version, but doesn't really hurt anything?







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#115019 Nov 21, 2015

Mainly because you don't have the control you would have withthe proper foot for this model. The D feet are missing a key pieceof presser foot real estate as this is where the BDF normallyconnects into these feet. You don't have the full contact with thefeed dog one would normally want. If you like thestitching you're obtaining when you use it, then continue to useit. It wouldn't be my first choice of a patchwork foot to use onthis model. My choice on this model would be the 97 OR prior tothat foot being released it was the 34C with my needle positionmoved accordingly.

Kari~

Be brave. Take risks. Nothing can substitute experience. - PauloCoelhoOn 11/21/2015 1:10 PM,lindac_1@... [430_440_630_640_730] wrote:

So I just found is online about the "D" vs non-D feet. .Is thiscorrect? .If so, it doesn't sound like it would hurt anything ouse it on my Artista 200, but would like to know for sure



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#115028 Nov 22, 2015

Hi Kari,

Thanks for your reply about using a 37 vs 37D on the Artista 200 model. What you said makes sense. But now, after reaearching the 37, 57 and 97, they all seem to say they are used for accurate 1/4" piecing, which is what I want for piecing my quilts. The 57 looks like it has a built in "edge guide" to align along the fabric edge to ensure the 1/4" seam. The 97 looks like it has a separate attachment but does the same thing. The 37 doesn't seem to have anything special for lining up the fabric except just the side of the foot.I'm going to be going to a quilt shop on Friday to buy a good 1/4" piecing foot for my machine, so I would like to ask whydo you prefer the 97? Do you have an opinion about the 97 vs the 57 for 1/4" piecing? For instance, is the 97 more versatile because you can (maybe) reposition that edge guide if you want a 1/2" seam for other sewing projects?



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#115029 Nov 22, 2015

Joann, the machine was taken in for something completely unrelated. One of the front purple knobs fell off, plus it was time for a tuneup. The question about the 37D came up because when I got my machine back, the 37D was taped to a note saying I should not use this foot with this machine, but didn't say why







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#115030 Nov 22, 2015

I understand Linda. I must tell you when my 200 was new, my knobs fell off twice, my tech put gorilla glue on them and they never came off again, at the time he said," you do not want them off so I made sure they stay"..he was such a great tech, I watched as he did it, it was under warrantee then. That being said, I think your machine will be fine..Now as to the feet, I do not use a speciality foot for piecing, as I do not do the precise 1/4., I do not feel I have a need for this, I am very straight sewing and old fashion (do not want seams to fail) so I do a 3/8. seam, about. I use my 1c and put my needle one point to the right. As you know the Bernina.s want to sew straight seams, so I let it go and it is great. I did buy some of the magnetic plastic strips but did not try them, only use them on my rulers. I am part eye strength in my eyes now and do not have a problem sewing straight so that means anyone can do what I do, I know. You will do just fine. Joann

Joann, the machine was taken in for something completely unrelated. One of the front purple knobs fell off, plus it was time for a tuneup. The question about the 37D came up because when I got my machine back, the 37D was taped to a note saying I should not use this foot with this machine, but didn't say why



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#115031 Nov 22, 2015

My preference on my 9mm wide machines prior to #97/97D beingreleased was a presser foot that allowed my fabric to be in fullcontact between the feed dog and the presser foot sole. Theexisting at the time patchwork feet 37/57 did not allow this so Iused 34C. I ran the fabric at the edge of the presser foot andadjusted my needle position to obtain my perfect quarter inchseam.

I do appreciate and use 37/57 on my 5.5 mm Bernina model. This isthe size feeddog they were created and meant to be used on.

Now that the 97 is available that's the foot I use on my artista730 as it is designed for the feeddog system on the 9mm models.The guide that comes with this foot can be adjusted for other seamwidths or it can be removed entirely if desired. It's all aboutchoices and what works for you!

Keep in mind, this is what worked for me. Fortunately there aremany options for Bernina owners.

Kari~

Everything that is done in the world is done by hope. - MartinLuther

On 11/22/2015 12:00 PM,lindac_1@... [430_440_630_640_730] wrote:...so I would like to ask why.do you prefer the 97? .Do youhave an opinion about the 97 vs the 57 for 1/4" piecing? .Forinstance, is the 97 more versatile because you can (maybe)reposition that edge guide if you want a 1/2" seam for othersewing projects?







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#115032 Nov 22, 2015

Kari,

Thanks so much...that is very helpful. I noticed what you mean about using the 37 and how (when trying to get a 1/4" seam), the right side of the fabric edge wasn't engaging with the feed dogs, so it was tough getting "traction" to start piecing. I trust your experience and I am going to look into trying out and probably buying the 97 foot this week



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#115033 Nov 22, 2015

Joann...when I bought it (used), it was shipped to me...packaged very well, but the same knob was broken when I got it. The seller did stand behind it and fixed it, but I wonder if they actually replaced the part or just glued it back on. :-)



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#115035 Nov 22, 2015

I was just in a dealer shop and was shown the 97 foot. she said it works better because it is wider and covers the feed dogs better. I have put it on my xmas list. I have troube with the others eating my fabric in the feed dogs joanne



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#115038 Nov 23, 2015

Kari, I think you answered my question about the use of the 97 on certain machines, but not on others. I think it relates to the 9mm expanse, which wouldn't work on the 5mm machines. My 640 has the wider plate, whereas the other machines have a narrower plate. However, if carefully using the guide, as you suggested, the 97 can be used with other machines. Thanks for your explanation. It saved me a trip to the Bernina sewing store.Cindy

Silver Spring, MDDeerfield Beach, FL



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#115046 Nov 23, 2015

Something that I have noticed when I've used a patch work foot with a guide (I have the 57D for my 780) is that you have to just barely let the fabric touch the guide or you will get a seam that is a tad more than 1/4". I find I do very well if I let the edge of the fabric follow the grove that is in the sole plate and don't pay much attention to the guide on the foot.

Peggy in VA---In 430_440_630_640_730@yahoogroups.com, lindac_1@...> wrote :

Hi Kari,

Thanks for your reply about using a 37 vs 37D on the Artista 200 model. What you said makes sense. But now, after reaearching the 37, 57 and 97, they all seem to say they are used for accurate 1/4" piecing, which is what I want for piecing my quilts. The 57 looks like it has a built in "edge guide" to align along the fabric edge to ensure the 1/4" seam. The 97 looks like it has a separate attachment but does the same thing. The 37 doesn't seem to have anything special for lining up the fabric except just the side of the foot







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#115086 Nov 25, 2015

Several months ago when BERNINA had a 25 off sale I bought the 97 D foot for my 830. I have pieced 2 large quilts, one my first flannel. I pieced the seams using one click to the right which gave me quarter inch seams and the sizes were right on. Before I used the 57 D and had to use my left hand to keep the fabric from drifting. This foot and guide makes all the difference keeping the fabric lined up. Maureen in MO


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